View Full Version : Ax10 axle v.s T-rex 60
MagnusJoLi
04-05-2009, 04:47 PM
Hey you all!
You just got yourself a swedish enginefreak to the forum!;)
Now:
The timberwolf has caught my interest and I'm thinking of getting the bolted alum. version... But I've noticed that a few of you change to Axial or HiLift axles? Is the stock axles too weak for crawlin'?
Any tips about this vehicle will be greatly appreciated!
Dakillswitch
04-05-2009, 06:09 PM
Hi and welcome to the forum
i have the bolted alum version, and i found out that the t-rex60 (the plastic ones ) are no good for for crawlin, they are as you say "too weak" and now i'm looking to swap them for other ones... maybe high lift or axial or even cr01's
for now i'm very disappointed with them if i had known that they are so bad
i would have took the alum axles instead or not at all, and would have put some others one from the start :mad: and it's a shame because they look great...
make sure to thread lock all the bolts on the chassis and post pics of your wolf :D
oh and have fun building it ...
Racer4Life
04-05-2009, 09:41 PM
You can either puchase a complete kit, or just the chassis.
As for the Rex Axles. they do have some weak spots and we are working to fit that. They were designed for scale and became a crawler axle, so we need to make some improvements.
Please let us know if you have any further questions.
MagnusJoLi
04-06-2009, 11:10 AM
Thank you for your answers!
So far, my plan is to purchase the complete kit... Now, I stuck my nose into the aluminium axle page and found the T-rex in aluminium (thumbs up)... And as far as I got it I need to purchase a set of alum. four link suspension mounts to make the axles ready to be dropped into the wolf? The price is pretty up in the sky but I hope they can take the same punishment out in the woods as the price punches my wallet then (they look very sweet)...? A complete kit that fits my sense of taste checks in at about 950$. *coughing*:o
The only question related to the kit would then be: Is there a need of a heavy duty transmission or is the one coming with the kit capable of allround offroading and crawling without breakage? I'm not looking for hardcore ultra crawling though...
For extra details: I will drop in an 50t motor with a 2 cell LiPo
scubadaveojr
04-06-2009, 12:17 PM
as for the trans, the r2 trans stand up to a lot of beatings... you can get the heavy duty one but unless you are running brushless, that is just over kill....
Dakillswitch
04-06-2009, 04:16 PM
Great... take the alum axles so that i can see if they are worth the money:rolleyes:what ever you do don't get the plastic ones.....
i run a tekin fxr with a 55t motor combo and it is great .
the only bad thing about this kit and the weak point (for me that is) are the plastic axles they only look good ...:(
the r2 is great too :D make sure you lube it and all the cog-wheels in the axles good.
if you have any more Q just ask....:cool:
scubadaveojr
04-06-2009, 04:39 PM
the plastics i have on mine are running great still!! but some people have better luck then others... i run a 2s lipo and a 50 turn motor and a momba max system.... the axles are plastic.... so there is some chance of breaking but if you just steer clear of the REALLY tight binds you should be good. lol... the alum will be unstopable.
Dakillswitch
04-06-2009, 05:19 PM
the plastics i have on mine are running great still!! but some people have better luck then others... i run a 2s lipo and a 50 turn motor and a momba max system.... the axles are plastic.... so there is some chance of breaking but if you just steer clear of the REALLY tight binds you should be good. lol... the alum will be unstopable.
Dude i've broke the C's on my axles running on flat ground!!!
and the tracgear Spool that was made from aluminum (and not from hardened Steel ) did not make it either...:
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x276/ceodude/The%20Wolf/IMG_4405.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x276/ceodude/The%20Wolf/IMG_4402.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x276/ceodude/The%20Wolf/IMG_4404.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x276/ceodude/The%20Wolf/IMG_4403.jpg
sorry that i've highjack your thread but it's good to know this info about the axles.
scubadaveojr
04-06-2009, 06:03 PM
if you broke the c's on flat ground then that might be some thing in the servo.... but what ever... lol.... as for the gear i have done that too.... have you lubed the gears inside? i dont really see any on there.
Dakillswitch
04-06-2009, 06:39 PM
if you broke the c's on flat ground then that might be some thing in the servo.... but what ever... lol.... as for the gear i have done that too.... have you lubed the gears inside? i dont really see any on there.
Oh yes i did lubed all the gears man i just cleaned it all up for the pic
so the you can see how the cog wheel is destroyed...
if it was made from hardened steel, this would have not happened...it was not strong enough ...
i have a Tamiya high lift that i've run very very hard for three years now and never had any problem !!
i've had the TW kit for about three months now and i'm not running it hard as the HL and still it breaks...
i'm disappointed from the axles, the rest of the kit is ok...
scubadaveojr
04-06-2009, 07:32 PM
i do agree with the gears i my self have gone through many of them but now i have them under control... i started to figure out my limits on them... but i know for a while there was some talk about making them stronger... the harder steel would be nice and the extra cost i dont think would be a big problem... cause they will last longer. lol.....
roborg5000
04-07-2009, 12:58 AM
Tahl I got your Pms and seen this as well.
Please email Mike at rcrock @ gmail.com with all the pics and such.
I am aware of the problems you have had as well.
Lets see what we can do to resolve this again.
Id like to see more gears from people having problems as well.
rc4wd
04-07-2009, 01:21 AM
We working on a new gear already, there is a chance that it will come out very soon. I will be posting a better picture soon.
For T-Rex, we already use an imported German plastic compound. We will have a meet soon and see what else we can do. Billet axle C will be available very soon as well.
Dakillswitch
04-07-2009, 02:24 AM
Tahl I got your Pms and seen this as well.
Please email Mike at rcrock @ gmail.com with all the pics and such.
I am aware of the problems you have had as well.
Lets see what we can do to resolve this again.
Id like to see more gears from people having problems as well.
Thanks Rob,
just e-mailed Mike.
weasel
04-07-2009, 09:03 AM
When I got my Diablo kit a few weeks ago I was wondering why there were an extra set of axle cases. After I lubed the gears, I Loctite-ed the case screws for the front axle, knowing that you cant overtighten the screws on anythig plastic for fear of breaking it. Well, I know why the exrta cases are included! I think a reinforced nylon would be a far better material for these cases, not some run of mill plastic. I may be new to the crawler world, but in the last 20 years I'v built it, raced it, broke it, and fixed it. Now don't get me wrong I like the kit alot and would buy it again, just sayin'.
MagnusJoLi
04-07-2009, 09:31 AM
Thanks again!
Hey guys, when I post a thread here, there's no need to worry if you think I think you snatch it somehow so no worries (hope that didn't twist your mind). I only appreciate to read about your experiences...
They do take VISA on the web right? I noticed paypal and Visa icons on the page... The thing is that I come from Sweden with a paypal on a swedish bank and so on wich makes it a bit of a clusterf.ck for the german banks when it comes to transfer, so I'd rather stay away from the paypal if possible... I live in Germany these days close to the Dutch border in Düsseldorf if anyone's curious. ^^
Racer4Life
04-07-2009, 12:31 PM
Thanks again!
Hey guys, when I post a thread here, there's no need to worry if you think I think you snatch it somehow so no worries (hope that didn't twist your mind). I only appreciate to read about your experiences...
They do take VISA on the web right? I noticed paypal and Visa icons on the page... The thing is that I come from Sweden with a paypal on a swedish bank and so on wich makes it a bit of a clusterf.ck for the german banks when it comes to transfer, so I'd rather stay away from the paypal if possible... I live in Germany these days close to the Dutch border in Düsseldorf if anyone's curious. ^^
Yes...Visa!;)
scubadaveojr
04-07-2009, 02:14 PM
i think that is the best bet.. if that wont work you can always as them about different types of payments... they have a few people over there who buy stuff...
Dakillswitch
04-07-2009, 03:17 PM
Tahl I got your Pms and seen this as well.
Please email Mike at rcrock @ gmail.com with all the pics and such.
I am aware of the problems you have had as well.
Lets see what we can do to resolve this again.
Id like to see more gears from people having problems as well.
Rob
make me one of your test drivers so i could help to not see more gears like that....lol
roborg5000
04-08-2009, 12:28 PM
Rob
make me one of your test drivers so i could help to not see more gears like that....lol
HAHAHHA! Working on it buddy ;)
scubadaveojr
04-08-2009, 04:11 PM
Rc4wd posted some thing about them already in the trail finder section....
MagnusJoLi
04-08-2009, 06:01 PM
Alright!
After the 15th this month I will take a look at my account... If it allows (fingers crossed since payment trouble from my company), there will be a Wolf order soon!:D I'm gonna hold my horses a bit considering the alum. axles though... I'll give the plastic ones a try first and hopefully they break just about when I can send the order for the " oh so awesome" axles.
Stay tuned!
All the best
(gotta say this is one of the most friendly forums I've visited btw...)
Dakillswitch
04-08-2009, 07:29 PM
HAHAHHA! Working on it buddy ;)
If you'll pull it off it'll be awesome bud :cool: i really do want to help
with this ...:D
Oh.... and MagnusJoLi, i'm looking forward to see your wolf joining the pack..:D
take your time with it and have fun building it :D
MagnusJoLi
04-13-2009, 12:27 AM
Alrigt the economy is on my side so the wolf WILL be on it's way after the 15th...
But I have a last question about the payment... There are only two options on the webshop: Paypal and check.
You say that Visa is accepted on the page? Do you use a card number or zip code to get your money or do I need to take your account number in some sort of way?
I'm feeling a bit dumb at the moment but please could you give me the nessescary payment informations??:o
Racer4Life
04-13-2009, 04:31 AM
Alrigt the economy is on my side so the wolf WILL be on it's way after the 15th...
But I have a last question about the payment... There are only two options on the webshop: Paypal and check.
You say that Visa is accepted on the page? Do you use a card number or zip code to get your money or do I need to take your account number in some sort of way?
I'm feeling a bit dumb at the moment but please could you give me the nessescary payment informations??:o
On your third step of the check out, after you made your selection. You have the choice to pay with a Mastercard or Visa. It will ask for your card number, exp date and code from the back of the card.
MagnusJoLi
04-13-2009, 12:12 PM
Okay!
The thing is though that when I'm at the payment choice step, I only got paypal and the paycheck. I chose the paycheck and when I'm about to confirm the order it says that I must send the money to their specified adress... So what you mean is that I fill in the card numbers after I've pressed the confirm order button? and then the order is sent away?
Thank you for your help
roborg5000
04-13-2009, 01:19 PM
Okay!
The thing is though that when I'm at the payment choice step, I only got paypal and the paycheck. I chose the paycheck and when I'm about to confirm the order it says that I must send the money to their specified adress... So what you mean is that I fill in the card numbers after I've pressed the confirm order button? and then the order is sent away?
Thank you for your help
Let me try to help you through it .
I use paypal so Ive never tried the CC thing but , I will do a mock order and see if I can help hang on 1 sec ;)
roborg5000
04-13-2009, 01:28 PM
Does the page look something like this? Or is the Credit card thing not there?
And which RC4WD website are you using ? Link please
Try this one if you arent using it.
http://rc4wdstore.com/index.php
Payment Method
Please select the preferred payment method to use on this order. Please Select
Credit Card
Credit Card Owner:
Credit Card Number:
The 3 last digits on the back of the card:
Credit Card Expiry Date:
Check/Money Order
PayPal
MagnusJoLi
04-13-2009, 02:08 PM
Okay I'll see if I can make this clear.
This is what I see after the payment choice ( there is only two options: Check/Money Order and Paypal. I chose Check/Money) just before confirming order I see this:
Billing Information
Billing Address (Edit)
Magnus Johansson
Alte Landstrasse 38
40489 Düsseldorf
Germany
Payment Method (Edit)
Check/Money Order
Sub-Total: $649.94
International EMS (4-6 Business Days w/ Tracking and Insurance): $35.00
Total: $684.94
Payment Information
Make Payable To:
Send To:
RC4WD
6081 MERIDIAN AVE STE 70-255
SAN JOSE CA 95120-2752
Your order will not ship until we receive payment.
roborg5000
04-13-2009, 02:10 PM
Hang on I will get Mike to help ;)Okay I'll see if I can make this clear.
This is what I see after the payment choice ( there is only two options: Check/Money Order and Paypal. I chose Check/Money) just before confirming order I see this:
Billing Information
Billing Address (Edit)
Magnus Johansson
Alte Landstrasse 38
40489 Düsseldorf
Germany
Payment Method (Edit)
Check/Money Order
Sub-Total: $649.94
International EMS (4-6 Business Days w/ Tracking and Insurance): $35.00
Total: $684.94
Payment Information
Make Payable To:
Send To:
RC4WD
6081 MERIDIAN AVE STE 70-255
SAN JOSE CA 95120-2752
Your order will not ship until we receive payment.
rc4wd
04-13-2009, 02:17 PM
MagnusJoLi, please place your order on rcrock.com (it is still our website) instead.
Rc4wdstore.com is not configured to accept international credit card, only our rcrock.com can take international cc.
Please try again, thanks
MagnusJoLi
04-13-2009, 02:28 PM
Yatzi!
rcrock.com works.
THANK YOU for your help!
mountainjam
05-31-2009, 02:42 PM
finished a crawler build last night with t-rex 60 axles. after just a few front digs, the bevel gear shaft that connects to the drive shaft broke where the set screw hole is. Is this a weak spot? the replacement bevel gear shaft has the same part number as the one included in the complete axle kit.
when connecting the drive shaft to the axle, how far should the set screw be screwed in? It seems that having the hole in the shaft creates a weak point. I wish it just had a flat surface. Advice please. Thanks!
roborg5000
05-31-2009, 03:22 PM
finished a crawler build last night with t-rex 60 axles. after just a few front digs, the bevel gear shaft that connects to the drive shaft broke where the set screw hole is. Is this a weak spot? the replacement bevel gear shaft has the same part number as the one included in the complete axle kit.
when connecting the drive shaft to the axle, how far should the set screw be screwed in? It seems that having the hole in the shaft creates a weak point. I wish it just had a flat surface. Advice please. Thanks!
Do you have any pics? Please post them
mountainjam
05-31-2009, 03:46 PM
Do you have any pics? Please post them
I'm already at work today. I will try to post pics tonight. Thinking of filling the hole in on the new shaft with solder.....when it gets here. I also have an ax10 crawler which does not have this hole and I have never had a problem.
mountainjam
06-03-2009, 12:43 PM
The only camera I have right now is theone on my phone so sorry about quality. However, you can see that is broke where the hole is.
chaser
06-08-2009, 07:46 AM
Tahl I got your Pms and seen this as well.
Please email Mike at rcrock @ gmail.com with all the pics and such.
I am aware of the problems you have had as well.
Lets see what we can do to resolve this again.
Id like to see more gears from people having problems as well.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w1/tolinja/IMG_1198.jpg
cheers
chaser
chaser
06-08-2009, 07:51 AM
this axle is about three weeks old and the tracgear went today
wasnt running very hard
and it is aluminium not steel???
what should i do?
cheers
chaser
roborg5000
06-08-2009, 07:51 AM
I already replied to your other post.
chaser
06-08-2009, 07:58 AM
I already replied to your other post.
ok cool will have a look
are they coming up with a better fix for this?
roborg5000
06-08-2009, 08:19 AM
ok cool will have a look
are they coming up with a better fix for this?
We are working on it. There was a problem with the last manufacture so other measures are being taken to sort out the problem. Try to be patient guys. I know its frustrating.
chaser
06-08-2009, 10:17 AM
thanks for telling me of the promlem
i dont feel quite as bad now
i couldnt beleave what i was doing hurt the car
i will wait thanks for the replacement till the better one arrive
cheers guys for being on top of it
chaser