New Subzero Kit and Chassis

[Racer4Life]

Subzero 1/10 Scale Full Metal Chassis
Subzero is our most anticipated scale off-road tube chassis, now available in powder coated black!


Steel tube chassis
Scale steering wheel
Scale interior panels
Weight: 1713grams/3.77lbs


Product number Z-C0021
Retail Price $299.99

http://www.rc4wdstore.com/2/product_info.php?products_id=908

[Racer4Life]

Subzero 1/10 Scale Truck Kit
Subzero, the first scale truck with a full steel tube chassis!


Steel tube chassis
Scale steering wheel
Scale interior panel
T-Rex plastic axles
Humvee 2.2 beadlock wheels
Rok Lox 2.2 tires
Disruptor tranny and transfer case
Steel punisher shaft
110mm dual spring shocks
Weight: 4.33kg/9.54lbs
Product number Z-K0018
Retail Price $599.99

http://www.rc4wdstore.com/2/product_info.php?products_id=909

[Racer4Life]

Both truck and chassis

[ScaleXtreme]

Looks awesome, Can I order one with aluminum axles and Rock&Die tires ?

[ScaleXtreme]

Just saw that there is an optional billet axle upgrade .

[Speeder]

Its a pity there isnt a few more pics from different angles im up for one but id like a lower parallel pics so i can see front clearance . still it looks real good and will go with my 4 wheel steering bully .Ive just gotta be sure before i buy as im in the UK..:)

[Racer4Life]

Its a pity there isnt a few more pics from different angles im up for one but id like a lower parallel pics so i can see front clearance . still it looks real good and will go with my 4 wheel steering bully .Ive just gotta be sure before i buy as im in the UK..:)

Should be a a magazine review soon.

[Speeder]

I have a few questions as the sub uses the T Rex plastic axels but weighs in at 9.54 Lbs then yet to have a battery, motor and radio gear added how well do the axels stand up to the punishment .
Many of the crawlers run these axels do they last and are any of the other crawlers as heavy all up?
Im no speed freak but i would be running a 55 to 80 turn motor in it ,would the axels be ok or would they have to be dumped straight away.
Also there is an upgrade option if i ordered a Sub with the billet axels front and rear would i get a discount as i wouldnt have a need for the plastic ones ?

[Racer4Life]

I have a few questions as the sub uses the T Rex plastic axels but weighs in at 9.54 Lbs then yet to have a battery, motor and radio gear added how well do the axels stand up to the punishment .
Many of the crawlers run these axels do they last and are any of the other crawlers as heavy all up?
Im no speed freak but i would be running a 55 to 80 turn motor in it ,would the axels be ok or would they have to be dumped straight away.
Also there is an upgrade option if i ordered a Sub with the billet axels front and rear would i get a discount as i wouldnt have a need for the plastic ones ?

The price difference is adjusted for the change out of the axles.

My Timberwolf is actually pretty heavy. I usr Rex axles under it and it does good with the Steel locker in the rear.

55-80 turn will be pretty slow in the truck.

[Speeder]

Thanks for the reply Racer ,how do i find the adjusted price?

[Racer4Life]

Thanks for the reply Racer ,how do i find the adjusted price?

Very sorry. I misunderstood what the optional upgrades meant on the Subzero. These are additional items you can purchase with yout kit. The axles can't be changed out.

Very sorry for the misunderstanding on my part.

The Plastic axles should be fine under the kit. If you want to purchase just the aluminum axle cases. You can send an e-mail and they will gladly help you.

[Speeder]

Hey No worries, i dont think i can wait for the mag report to come out and i probably cant get it in the uk anyway ive been scouring the web for more pics but cant find some any where but i did find this

[crawlingman9000]

this is my fav kit but i need to know with the mounts for the links would it work with your alum tlt black axle housing? i have a set and i dont wanna pay the 600 and how does it look with the 1.9 rok lox

[Speeder]

I Hope its Good just bought one but i did have a drink first when i get it ill post many pics

[Speeder]

Dose any one know how long before the sub zeros ship is there a long waiting list ?

[bluebyuss]

hello im new to the site. i have just ordered on of these kits myself

[Speeder]

Still waiting:(

[Racer4Life]

Still waiting:(

Please e-mail support@rc4wd.com

Send order number as well. Rob should have an update for you.

[Speeder]

Good idea Racer i just sent a mail to, contact i hope that was right .:(

[UK_Andy]

Could you offer this in bear metal or other colours? Id really like a Olive green one

[Racer4Life]

Could you offer this in bear metal or other colours? Id really like a Olive green one

You might be able to get a plain one. No special colors right now, that I am aware of.

Send us an e-mail.

Tom

[Speeder]

Yeah it turned up at work today , customs have ruined the box still what do we expect i have just had a quick look every thing is here the the build looks quite good but it will take a while to put up and adjust properly wheels look really well finished . Ill post some pics as soon as i can fit the wheels on it .. Nice.

[icecreamslick]

Yeah it turned up at work today , customs have ruined the box still what do we expect i have just had a quick look every thing is here the the build looks quite good but it will take a while to put up and adjust properly wheels look really well finished . Ill post some pics as soon as i can fit the wheels on it .. Nice.

Yeah! .....and a video?!! I really want to see this truck in action! :rolleyes:

[Speeder]

All ill get to do before christmas is a couple pics i wont get time to have it up and running till i have a week off . Its got a few geometry issues ill have to sort out but ill get on it soon!!

[icecreamslick]

Speeder, you're killin' me. KILLIN' ME. Any progress to report?!?! :cool:

[4c2p0]

there is a couple of short vids on my you tube page: http://www.youtube.com/user/4c2p0

[Racer4Life]

there is a couple of short vids on my you tube page: http://www.youtube.com/user/4c2p0

Thanks for sharing. Very awesome.

[icecreamslick]

there is a couple of short vids on my you tube page: http://www.youtube.com/user/4c2p0

Did you read the video description? The front diff fell apart already. :eek: That really sucks because I have the money in my account and I'm ready to order, but....

Those axles are not really a new item, so I'm surprised to hear that there is a problem, but it also scares me. I may have to take a step back and wait a while - $600.00 is a lot to put into a weak truck. If you had been really beating on it that would have been one thing, but I would expect it to be fairly bullet-proof considering the light crawling I saw in those videos. :(

[4c2p0]

i'm pretty sure it broke due to a faulty diff not stress related, its only a $15 part anyway. i still have faith in this rig, it is geared realy nicely.

[Speeder]

Speeder, you're killin' me. KILLIN' ME. Any progress to report?!?! :cool:

Hi mate yeah i would be right on it but it was quite badly damaged in the post it had a side panel punched in and where i think the box must have been dropped from a height or thrown all the chassis shock mounts were bent its not something i cant get round but it will need some work i have to replace a panel i cant use the bent one and the mounting nut has come off so ill have to solder it i thought it was a production fault but its not on closer inspection . Soon as i get it looking good ill fire some pics to you all i have my lipo's here my new reciever rooster combo and different tyres so all is cool !!!!!

[Speeder]

Ive just started to have a go at some of the bent bits on my sub so i started with the grill to make it look a little more familiar ill find a pair of lights later and i fitted a new panel not going to do much more just tidy it up and align the geometry.http://www.rc4wdforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1367&stc=1&d=1261440708http://www.rc4wdforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1368&stc=1&d=1261440708http://www.rc4wdforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1369&stc=1&d=1261440708

[4c2p0]

hi speeder, what kind of geometry problems are you having? i to have some minor problems with mine. i noticed the front frame rails where the shock connect is not centred, causing the whole truck to drive lobsided. it would be simple to fix, i'm just not sure what to use to reattach it. i don't want to use my welder it will vaporize the truck in an instant. i was thinking of salder, but don't know if that would be strong enough. any segestions? nice grill to, looks like a hummer grill.

[Speeder]

Hi 4c if you cant get it tigged get it silver soldered it will be well strong enough , my geometry probs are as if someone stood on it, all four upper shock mounts were bent in i replaced the front grill because it was welded in twisted so i dumped it .
There is only one other thing which may alter its straight track and that is the right radius arms mount is offset .If it dose when i finish it ill tear it off and make a new one i think thats the best thing.
All in all its quite cool.

[Speeder]

Just a couple of pics i gave it a bit of a test run and a trim all is okish but it has the turning circle of Saturn and if a rig ever needed a center diff this is it! Anyway here is a few pics of it not even close to finished had a four hour blast through the web last night looking for some headlights didnt find a thing i dont really want them to light but if i cant find anything else i might just get them or end up making something...

[Racer4Life]

Love the paint work Speeder. Very cool.

[icecreamslick]

had a four hour blast through the web last night looking for some headlights didnt find a thing i dont really want them to light but if i cant find anything else i might just get them or end up making something...

I have these on my Ax10 crawler and they look pretty scale on a 1:10 body. It would mean drilling out the front end of your chassis to mount them, but for $20.00 they might be worth a look:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RC-2-sets-of-10mm-head-lights-and-tail-lights_W0QQitemZ400094287246QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRad io_Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5d277a558e

The buckets are chrome, but you can paint them before installing the light bulbs.

[Speeder]

Cheers fella ill prob get these , if you didnt know the first article came out in Race car about the Sub Zero they are building.

[Speeder]

Ive had my sub running about the front room just for setting up its only had a couple of five or so minute runs i havent had to charge the lipos yet . I thought id have a little check of things and found this, bearing in mind that it hasn't been used outside yet or in anything tough how long is it going to last? i havent even finished it yet! :confused: perhaps these should have been sent out with a number of spares..

[icecreamslick]

Wow, that's not good. :confused: It looks as though the output shaft is certainly a weak point on the Subzero. I don't get it. The whole chassis is steel, but that part of the differential is aluminum? What the?

No offense to you, but I'm glad I held off on buying this thing. :eek: That looks like an obvious design flaw.

[Speeder]

Wow, that's not good. :confused: It looks as though the output shaft is certainly a weak point on the Subzero. I don't get it. The whole chassis is steel, but that part of the differential is aluminum? What the?

No offense to you, but I'm glad I held off on buying this thing. :eek: That looks like an obvious design flaw.

I agree but i have a plan i have a Bully which runs really well ! When i bought it i also bought a spare front axel for four wheel steering. So i have just bought a new front so what i will do is put the sub on bully axels that way ill have something which will work really well and i'll sell off all trex , disrupter ,punisher running gear if i knew then what i know i would have just bought the body..............:(

[Racer4Life]

I agree but i have a plan i have a Bully which runs really well ! When i bought it i also bought a spare front axel for four wheel steering. So i have just bought a new front so what i will do is put the sub on bully axels that way ill have something which will work really well and i'll sell off all trex , disrupter ,punisher running gear if i knew then what i know i would have just bought the body..............:(

There are a ton of these axles out there. I have not had much issue with them.

If you need a pinion. We have spares. Contact Support.

[Speeder]

There are a ton of these axles out there. I have not had much issue with them.

If you need a pinion. We have spares. Contact Support.

Just done it they are sending two tomorrow..Quick service.:)

[icecreamslick]

Awesome. :cool: Is there any such thing as an upgraded pinion available, so the problem does not recur? Hardened steel for example.

[Army]

Would you recommend soldering all the mounts before attaching the radius arms etc?
I just ordered the SUBZERO and really appreciate all/any of the information given.

[Speeder]

Hi Fella i didnt reply as ive been away , yes i would reinforce the shock mounts before you do your build mine gave way straight away i havent repaired mine as i have been out of time but i will get to it . The magazine race car is doing a sub zero build at the moment and they say they will give tips on how to counter act torque steer and any other little problems so try and get that as it comes out again soon..